“One sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields; and as they made their way his disciples began to pluck heads of grain. The Pharisees said to him, “Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the sabbath?” And he said to them, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need of food? He entered the house of God, when Abiathar was high priest, and ate the bread of the Presence, which it is not lawful for any but the priests to eat, and he gave some to his companions.” Then he said to them, “The sabbath was made for humankind, and not humankind for the sabbath; so the Son of Man is lord even of the sabbath.” Mark 2:23-28
Get the impression this was happening: “Your disciples are breathing wrong – why do you allow this? By allowing this you are wrong.”
How did Gay Sex end up in that same category? Love between two people. Just the “wrong kind of sex”. “That is unnatural and disgusting – God says (no really – God SAYS!)”
I wonder why “sex” is preferred to “love”. I wonder why love between two committed and sincere human beings (just like any of us) is decided by man and God (but the final call being of man) to be the wrong kind of “sex”.
“That is unnatural and disgusting – God says (no really – God SAYS!). See that one verse? If you read it this way and leave out that bit and that bit – it says I am right and you are wrong – God says (no really God SAYS!)””
Because there is an alternative. The bible (God?) says lots of things. But that isn’t what this is all about (is it?). So let’s forget what the bible “says” for a minute – forget the “God says this – no really God SAYS!” for a minute …
Are you are happy for me to live in your life and judge your sexual needs and your sexual desires and your sexual acts – and (obviously) those of your partner as well – to judge whether your “sex” (and your partner’s) is natural and God-approved? Not just for a brief moment – but for your entire life? Are you happy for your relationship and intimacy to be stripped of all that is good so I can focus only on the “base carnal desires” as a consequence of your love and intimacy? And are you willing to also be stripped of the accepted legal sacredness of your intimate relationship (we call that marriage) which means that your “base and carnal sex” can only (and ever) be dirty and “sinful”?
And if not all (or part) of that list – please tell me how can you assume that right over anyone else based on “evidence” you found in the bible? That is not love. That is not even loving. That is control.
And to control others we need evidence to convince that “we” are right (even if that “we” is just me) – evidence of my right to control you.
Which means that “God says” is using the Living Word of God … my Daily Bread … our Word of God … to control others.
My question is this.
Just how does that bring you (and me) closer to the God you worship and praise? Because my thought is that it distances us both. And as for the “bible says” … It also says this: “The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law.” Mark 1:22
This stuff was written 2000+ years ago.
So if it really is the Living Word today (I hear preached every Sunday) – how come “we” prefer it to be dry and dusty and dead and legal …
Unless that means we can use it to control others (legally)?
“God says – no really God SAYS – it’s in the bible – look … “