So littleones we return to the story of stories: don’t always believe the Bible even though there is a message in every story.
We can’t prove that he existed! What the treaure of three great religions might not have physically existed ! If he didn’t it is impossible to sit him on a timeline to say here he is, here he went and when.
Was there ever a Construct of a Type of Abraham. ( think what this may mean)
Biblical Historians and Archaelogists alike have been playing hide and seek since at least the nineteenth century of this era to find any consistent concrete proof that he was. Thought to have existed sometime in 2100 BCE. upon inspecting the lineage in the Scriptures a later date of somewhere between 2000 and 1500 BCE is offered.
Scripture says he was a rich old dude owning livestock herds and non existant camels, (Genesis :24:1) the Camels Had No Business in Genesis – The New York Times
Now, get this the Ur we thought he came from and when was more likely not to be that Ur but another, because the chaldeans were a tribe that did not exist until sometime between the sixth and fith centuaries BCE, some 1500 years after Abraham was.
This story was not recorded until sometime betweem the 6th and 5th Centuries BCE and if you notice Camels existed then. Therefore because they existed in their own time the Authors had no hesitation in supplying Camels for Abraham.
The Authors, looking for something to hang their hats on, an existing coat rack, comensurable with the Oral traditions- may have decided that Ur of the chaldees was a good bet as it was the only one known to them.
Ur of Sumeria became the superior contender after cuniform tablets found at Mari in todays Syria ( some 20,000 of them) pointed to Ur being more likely in Sumeria.
As yet I shall not mention why Terah left the Schizoid Urs in the first place, it wasn’t because God told him too.
The New York Times. 2018. The New York Times – Breaking News, World News & Multimedia. [ONLINE] Available at: https://www.nytimes.com. [Accessed 04 March 2018].
- There are too many camels in the Bible, out of time and out of place.
Camels probably had little or no role in the lives of such early Jewish patriarchs as Abraham, Jacob and Joseph, who lived in the first half of the second millennium B.C., and yet stories about them mention these domesticated pack animals more than 20 times. Genesis 24:10 for example, tells of Abraham’s servant going by camel on a mission to find a wife for Isaac. From an article by Dr. Mizrahi extract below.
National Geographic. 2018. Latest Stories. [ONLINE] Available at: https://news.nationalgeographic.com. [Accessed 04 March 2018].
Newly published research by two archaeologists at Tel Aviv University in Israel shows that camels weren’t domesticated in the eastern Mediterranean until the 10th century B.C.—several centuries after the time they appear in the Bible.
History, back then, was something verbally passed on from one generation to the next, not something that was explored. Archaeology didn’t exist, people didn’t dig through the earth to find out if the people of Ur weren’t the ones who inhabited the land hundreds of years earlier. The closes thing they had were genealogies, but even they weren’t accurate. You didn’t keep a list of every ancestor from Abraham through Jesus, you kept a list of the important ones. To some extent, it was a bragging ritual, “I came from David, here are the great leaders from whom I am descended.”
A few years ago I tried to explore my genealogy. I knew (paper records) who my grandparents were (including maiden names), the cities they came from (countries were irrelevant, and borders have changed). I even found someone in the area to do the research, since I couldn’t travel there and cannot speak (or read) the language. With all the information, and the professional help, I could not go further on my mother’s side than my great-grandparents; on my father’s side I couldn’t get back further than my grandparents (whom I lived with). The reason? Two world wars nearly wiped out the towns, churches were utterly destroyed, as were the civil buildings.
My point? I have no proof that anyone in my family existed more than 100 years ago, therefore I do not exist, according to the people denying Abraham. I have no written record of those people from whom I came, at a time when written records of everyone’s birth, baptismal, marital, and death records were kept in multiple places (churches, court offices, etc.). Even tombstones no longer exist as shells and tanks destroyed cemeteries with little or no thought as to their historical significance.
So, no written record (other than the Bible) recording the lives of people 3,000-4,000 years ago? We don’t have accurate records over 100 years ago.
Thank you, I had composed an answer for this on my tablet and published it but the ghosts of Patriarchs past ate it.
I understand exactly what you say, my Uncle has been tracing his sisters genealogy – and has reached the 17 C. It is easier in Britain because of the methods of preserving written information – not inerrant since there must be more than I Joan Cooper.
Preferably I would like a DNA test to discover if there is any ancient British blood in me or else am I a bundle of immigrants and conquerors?
I am British born 1954, but what was I
Should read earlier date got my BCE’s muddled.
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