Almost every “domestic” we have had over more than three decades centres on “I said you said”. That age-old playing-back of the clearly remembered “transcript” of words actually said.
Except my memory is never Mrs Paul’s memory – which results in (either the thought or the saying): “I wish we could record these conversations – then you would see I never said it that way!”
Said it that way.
Now large crowds were travelling with him; and he turned and said to them, ‘Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not carry the cross and follow me cannot be my disciple. For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not first sit down and estimate the cost, to see whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it will begin to ridicule him, saying, “This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.” Or what king, going out to wage war against another king, will not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to oppose the one who comes against him with twenty thousand? If he cannot, then, while the other is still far away, he sends a delegation and asks for the terms of peace. So therefore, none of you can become my disciple if you do not give up all your possessions.” Luke 14:25-33
Hate … hate … hate … hate … pain and suffering … gives up everything …
Hate to say it (!) but this one just makes my blood boil. Hate is a very strong word. Hate is an emotion greater than logic. Like love, hate spills out and consumes. But hate consumes to destroy rather than grow. Hate pulls down rather than builds-up. Hate is not something I have ever taught as the way forwards to anyone.
“I hate you.” Now my son, that’s the way to express yourself! Just keep repeating it to all those who love you and you – and they – will come to believe it is true. Now THAT is the way to heaven! The bible says so!
And rather than go back to the “source” of Greek (or even Hebrew) – my take is that these biblical scholars inspired by God thought that word the right word to use: hate. And if it’s good enough for them down the ages – then it is relevant to me today.
But if the person – I have shared my life with for 35 years – and I can STILL say stuff neither of us think was said seconds after “the saying” … I think we are allowed some latitude with the bible as well.
Luke was writing words CRAFTED to teach and convince … in a time and place where life was cheap … where there was no google or social media … where face-face conversations and remembered memories was communicating. And their memories of remembered words might have been far superior to mine … their “domestics” might not have revolved around “I said you said” … But I doubt it. We hear what we want to hear mostly. It’s how we were designed.
So I speculate that these words were either an extreme to make a point – or Luke crafting his own extreme to make a point – or both.
Or neither …
“Hang on Jesus you’re talking too fast … what’s that last bit … ? Sod it he’s not even listening to me!
Hey you – what was that last bit he said? No not that bit – the bit after that … the “whoever comes to me” bit … what did he say just after that … ?
Love … LOVE … ?!?
No that can’t be right – that’s old hat that is. Anyway didn’t sound like “love” to me – more like “date” – but that makes no sense – how can you “date” your mum and dad – that’s just plain wrong! Anyone got any ideas …?
Date mate … date night …
Stop saying “date” it’s got us all hung up on “dating” our mum and dad and that’s not right at all! Whoa … hang an a mo … ! If date is so wrong … what about “hate to date” … ? That makes more sense … nice alliteration as well … reinforcement of good moral behaviour … Yep that fits! Now let me write that down … “hate … “ Awww crap! I’m right out of ink! Anyone help me out here … anyone … ? No ….
Okay – no problemo, I’ll make a mental note to fix that bit when I get home.”